Original Message------- From: Starlight Dancer Date: Sunday, March 30, 2003 18:53:46 To: Greydon Moore Subject: Re: 10 - One more postponement Hi Greydon, sorry this writing is so giant & bold. I couldn't get it to go back to normal after pasting the information below (symptoms of West Nile). This was the smallest & least bold, believe it or not. My ailment doesn't involve sweating, just coughing so much that my lungs hurt and muscles around lungs are sore. Appetite is less than usual..ears hurt, throat burns. Sleep is hard because of constant coughing. Here is a website with symptoms of Sars~ http://www.doh.gov.uk/sars/ I remember hearing about Sars just a few days ago and thinking of you because I believe the quarantined hospital in your area was mentioned. Are you worried? .... ~Starlight From: Greydon Moore Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 9:34 PM To: StarlightDancer Subject: Re: 10 - One more postponement Hi. As it happens the type size was so small and tiny but I was able to read it thanks to the new glasses. I am not worried about SARS even though the incredible 'co-incidence' of the threat being close enough at the region's second largest hospital being quarantined, I cannot recall if a hospital in new york was quarantined before our Carlton-Regional hospital. Still and all, take all of Canada, than one hospital so close that I could be driving into the emergancy entrance within the space of one phone call started from here. I mean, it is verrrry nearby. I had a really bad lingering couph which seems to have entirely finished, but for a couple of weeks in deep winter there were really sharp harsh deep couphs erupting including the middle of the night but my energy levels were high. Now, my energy levels seem quite low but no couph or anything else. It seems that neither of the viruses, explains your symptoms, or John Turmel's current profused sweats and remark this evening that he thinks it is the worse cold he has ever had. I would enjoy some really good encouraging news as a cure for what ails me being of course threat dread uncertainty anxiety, none of which I saw coming I had belief that the future was going to continue in progressive uphill ways but this seems to have been totally reversed by the american thrust into full war ahead forget christ completely With that much negative now on the flow it is no wonder that the good guys are suddenly getting hammered by fiscal and phsysical, both domains used in malpractice control by the negative. A job holding salaried wage earner does all right as long as they buy a house, vehicle they cannot afford, and spend most of their earnings back into the system maintaining debt and planet polluting industries (gas cars highways accidents insurance repairs etc.) In america the moment such an infrastructure stalwart falls ill they are on their own even plunged into poverty if not having adequate medical insurance paid by rigorous monthly installments one missed and the person can loose everything. So, you have guys like us who have chosen to live outside of such structure as much as possible without being burdening to anyone else and things are fine as long as no major upsets, but major upsets do occur, I wish they didn't, secondly not that many are going out of their way to find the kind of messages guys like us (including you) are putting forth, the messages gives little in the way of complimenting or furthering the whole dreadlock wizard operated system which starts with money and the complete control of it then works down all the way through credit cards loans mortages the whole of the soul's entrapment, persons trapped deemed to live a certain kind of lifestyle only, for instance, such souls trapped are zealously way less energetic in doing anything that might help remove or even completely dissolve the trap for others. If you have a blender that can puree or liquify small chunks of ginger and cloves of garlic you may wish to try a mix I have been using for over two years for clearing away momentary lung conjestions I was told by a reliable source, a panhandler I befriended two summers ago, that rubby dubs and street people use ginger for lungs and respiratory problems, even a can of ginger ale is concidered worthy. I took a chunk of fresh ginger root (a chunk about half the size of a small container used to hold a roll of 35mm film), chopped it up into small pieces not big deal just cut it up a bit, plus usually about 3 garlics the skins peeled, into the blender, along with about a large glass of vegetable juice (up here we get Mott's Garden Fresh with green in its label no additives no preservatives not even salt added) and blend this all together and I swear that minor lung problems constantly clear up within the day or the next day when consuming the ginger mix, I think the blending of the garlic and ginger make both curative properties of ginger, and garlic, better, when the two are mixed together first by pounding them in a containter (any kind to stop pieces from flying around) with the end of a blunt kitchen tool I use the flat blunt end of a small kitchen matchete (big knife with wide curved blade chefs use on TV to chop things), when all of the chunks and bits have been pounded I pitch it into the blender and mix it at top speed with the vegetable juice, also, I like tossing in about six or eight full pieces of parsley these include the long stems cut up quickly with a pair of scissors into the blender. Extras can be tossed in, for instance if you want to get rid of some extra celery, or cucumber, toss it into the mix, the purpose of the mix is to get ginger in pure form into your system so that it will assist your respiratory system, mixed oil-to-oils first with garlic the best route, as far as I have determined. I will use the ginger-garlic pounded together paste in soup or anything else when out of vegetable juice, which is frequent due to inconsistent income. If you do not have a blender, try pounding a chunk of ginger root together with (say) three pieces of garlic. Some people use the word 'clove' for the whole thing which comes out of the ground, I have always used the word 'clove' to mean a piece (like an orange slice) broken from the round garlic total, so two or three such pieces of garlic are what I use. So, as I come staggering out the finish of that rather difficult description of the ginger-garlic combination, I am well aware of how a picture can be worth a thousand words, to simply show you how to make a mixture (really easy) with a blender, as opposed to trying to explain how. I could go and measure a chunk of ginger so tell you exactly, except, we got overdosed with a ginger root supply a few weeks back and are still working through the last of it the problem being that it has shrunk, withered, and new growth shoots are coming from the ginger so I cannot example by weight or teaspoon what I mean by chunk of ginger. Greydie. -------Original Message------- From: Starlight Dancer Date: Monday, March 31, 2003 18:52:42 To: Greydon Moore Subject: Re: 13 - One more postponement Dear Greydon, I cannot believe that when you recieved my last email the type size was "so small" when from my end, the email looked like a giant sign! I was afraid you were going to fall off your chair upon opening it because the letters would have been so large it would have been like having a bugle blow in your face or having someone yell at you in writing! I am going to answer your first email (I love those long emails), then read your second one later. Like you, my energy levels are super low and I have spent much of the time since I last wrote sleeping. Having to rush to the hospital for Mom first on Friday (after the 4:00 am phone call), then over the weekend might have made me a little worst. I'm sort of crashing now. I must say for someone with low energy you put forth a beautiful recipe for congestion that I would like to try. Thanks for being so detailed as I will be more likely to get it right, not being used to following recipes. Your chunk of ginger' being compared to a 1/2 container for holding 35 mm film gave me a perfect picture of the chunk size. I love ginger by the way, could eat it plain. But your recipe not only sounds healthy, it sounds delicious. I tried this "cold vegetable soup" once, which didn't sound good, but tasted great, and your recipe sounds sort of like that. I also love parsley; I eat it right out of the bag like you, always have. Speaking of being sick, if John Turmel is still having those symptoms don't you think he should go to a doctor too (just not that nearby hospital!)? It sounds like he is walking around with a fever from your previous description of breaking out in sweat. I hope he is feeling better. But I also have to tell you something else. I caved -- coughing was so terrible and throat sore and all having gone on so long, close to a week without improvement, I decided to take out the credit card and go to the doctor. They measured my oxygen levels which were so low the doctor thought I had pneumonia and ordered x-rays to see for sure. Happy to say it wasn't pneumonia, but it is bronchitis which can turn to pneumonia if not treated. Here is the good part: This doctor, seeing I did not have insurance, gave me 10 days worth of antibiotics in samples (doctors have all sorts of samples around the hospital, given them by pharmaceutical companies wanting to push their product) -- saving me $100.00 more on the already taxed credit card (which I am not sure would have even taken that amount -- I might have had to forgo the cure if not for the kind gesture). I just started the antibiotics and was told I should feel better in 3 or 4 days. So with your recipe to add to this treatment, I hope it is more like one or 2 days. I have a feeling that sleep will play a large part over the next 2 days. I still cannot stand or sit for long -- intense weariness happens and within seconds of laying down I fall asleep. I am usually a high energy person too, so this is very strange to experience. So kindness can still happen. Even in the money-driven U.S. there are individuals, like you said, who in their own way live and act outside "the structure", i.e. that doctor. And that is what I am hoping will happen for you -- something outside the structure. I am sorry that you are experiencing such anxiety and dread. I do not want to say something that will sound trite or stereotyped, so I will just tell you that I am going to try and trust in the universe supplying you with what you need, and in the ever present possibility of human kindness. On and off I read this book which is sort of a physics book for dumbos, written with like almost NO science words. Certain ideas have stood out for me, and I have frequently thought of sending some of the quotes to you. I don't know if on their own they will affect you as they did me, especially since you are scientifically minded already, but I will include a couple, if only to give you something else to look at, to think about than the anxiety that might be in your mind now. I am not really sure why these quotes energize me, but they do. I fear they might sound a little Zen-like -- if anything perhaps they will make you laugh: Quote 1: "The real problem is that we are used to looking at the world simply. We are accustomed to believing that something is there or it is not there. Whether we look at it or not, either it is there or it is not there. Our experience tells us that the physical world is solid, real, and independent of us. Quantum mechanics says, simply, that this is not so." (I think it is the last sentence I love, and the idea I get that there is a science that implies we can sort of be in a situation, change perception, and thereby change the situation. They talk about particles & molecules reacting to observation and perception of the scientist. This makes me think that, since ALL of the universe is made up of particles and molecules, we are constantly forming & changing our surroundings by our thoughts and perceptions. Which leads to me thinking that that is why WHAT we read, WHAT we think, how often we replenish our spirit, WHO we surround ourselves with etc. is very important, because these all influence our thoughts and perceptions. I know you know all this already, but seeing it as a science is new to me. You and I have talked about changing energy in a room. I think this is in the same vein). Quote 2: Without perception, the universe continues...to generate an endless profusion of possibilities. The effect of perception, however, is immediate and dramatic...Who is looking at the universe? Put another way, How is the universe being actualized? The answer comes full circle. WE are actualizing the universe. Since we are a part of the universe, that makes the universe (and us) self actualizing." Okay, that last one maybe borders too much on 'eastern', but there seems to be a certain truth in it. "Physics?" you must be thinking, "more like philosophy". But it reminds me of a recent email of yours where what you said implied that we are actualizing the universe. I just looked for that email of yours, but couldn't find it. Well enough of that. Maybe next time I wake up and write I'll be out of this Zennish mode. Sending waves of peace, Starlight ----- Original Message ----- From: Greydon Moore Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:53 PM To: StarlightDancer Subject: Re: 14 - One more postponement Hi. I don't know what suddenly got into you but it seems to be real goodstuff.. Are you ever buzzing. First, one of the very first things I was taught (via the same teacher who quote 'taught' he who now goes by the name Zuerrnnovahh-Starr Livingstone) that everything, EVERYTHING, originates in thought, and there is not anything real unless it existed in energy form, which is why most of the 3rd dimension is illusionary since it the cities you see the bombs going off over bagdad do not exist in the energy dimensions, neither does your street traffic for that matter neither does your driveway, illimunate just those two subjects, and witness at once just how much the 4th dimension, the very next one up and most nearby around you, is noticably different than anything you see in the third dimension, for instance streets, houses, traffic, fines police, jail, prison, all because of bylaws, in the 4rd dimension and the 4th dimension mental world illusion which is still trying to exclude christ from it. Next is the law of attraction - or more specifically - the law of positive attraction, that is, that what you need will come in in unexpected ways if the desire for the need is right. For instance, your antibiotics from the doctor, right on schedule. Our 89 Olds medium sized station wagon is starting to suffer the worst case of front end wobble you have ever seen a side to side shimmy as you drive at any speed up the street the shimmy changing through different speeds at the moment common sense precludes going over 70. When Turmel and mother teresa (also known as Miss Marpole) moved in two tires landed at the back end of the driveway. Saturday I got around to taking a look at them sure enough I could have them. Later saturday, driving my musician friend with his two dober female dogs to the place shared by his older brother and mother, for the weekend, suddenly he is shouting look, look, pointing to a stack of three tires just exposed by melting snow. Into the car they went. Today monday I find out that two are excellent due to being a matching pair but cannot use because of being 15 inchers where I need 14 inches. But, the point is, within a couple of hours after cliff and I deciding that minimum expense to replace the two bald and wobbling front end tires, five (three very good quality) tires are in my station wagon ready to boogie on a deal for replacing our worn out and wobbling front end tires. Turned out that the tire size we need is the most common of sizes so the outfit I went to this morning (monday) for two tires installed for 15$ each could not happen, no tires of the right size in stock. So, everything actually worked well via the law of attraction right up to the point of missing endproduct. Tomorrow, perhaps, the point is that I have these three freebie 15 inchers as bargaining chips when prior I had nothing at all. Insert- I read about the blue feather*. Kinda thought how different that is than picturing an induction super potent higher frequency form that could dissolve and end US desire to race missles through Iraq and cause the US administration to cancel all war ideas at the same time leaders of other countries around the world all lay down their arms, what kind of frequency to induct, and how to hold it in consciousness long enough to do any real good, compare this to mentally picturing a blue feather. Ottawa has not been mentioned in the news since yesterday regards SARS scares. I am 64 years old. Kinda keep wondering how old you were when cliff first heard your voice on the phone he thought meybe a high schooler but I know you are older than that. Detroit seems to be a lingering dejavu where clyde was teaching technical writing at a college near detroit. I think the first paragraph of this your email to me is perfect for a file in missingmass 'bugle in your face' is the kind of expression I think of all the time and suddenly here it is straight from you the same expression written so clearly I knew exactly what you meant. I may have lost a few emails from you circa late december early January. I am encountering emails coming up from that era with blank contents not even emailer's control clickable's, just a blank empty page with a border all around. I am also now seeing emails with hypertext codes instead of merely words and letters at different sizes, within these crashed, I see fragments which have your writing so I think some of our you-to-me has been compromises from around the last few days of december through perhaps the first week of January I will not know the extent of any loss until sending yours-to-me emails back to you. I have no idea why the mini crash, I have done virus checks (latest to today), defragmenting, boots, etc., and sometimes I see crashed emails and sometimes do not, what is worrisome is today I have seen crashed emails all day, when I meant do not is that if I shut down the computer, re-oned, and reloaded the emailer from a diffrerent icon (my desktop has actually three email icons, incredimail the emailer really LOVed my computer especially during installme NOW), I would not see a trash full of crash when reading a email which only one other emailerr icon before was full of trash, was now transparent again full of message. Then later, only say an hour or so, up it would come again not full of message but trashed crash and I am puzzled enough to start wearing fingernails holes into certain strategic areas in my scalp where the strongest radiations of intense brainburns are spiking out in straight lines like a mighty giant large sea urchin spiked to my head, and still, without all of this physical imagery, I still do not know why some of your emails are crashing, and when read again later, are just fine. This strangeness built up after the first week of capricorn. And there you are, now you know something more about capricorn. Add THIS to your list of interesting finds about astrology. Greydie/ *Note to Readers at this site: The 'blue feather' refers to an episode in the book, ILLUSIONS, by Richard Bach. The blue feather incident provides a kind of 101 course in "The Law of Attraction", which is mentioned by Greydon in the email above. -------Original Message------- From: Starlight Dancer Date: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 15:03:32 To: Greydon Moore Subject: Re: 15 - One more postponement Wow, here's what got into me: I had this very set intention of wanting to bring you a mental reprieve from anxiety, sadness, and dread, especially since fear (anxiety being a form of that) is something you have pointed out to me is counterproductive to good manifesting. I just wrote with a very deep wish of silencing fears -- I didn't think of it at the time as "intention", but I think I could call it that. I really did write from a less ego-ish standpoint, almost like I was outside of myself. Also wrote to quell my own sadness over your situation and my inability to provide help. I have found myself wishing and visualizing sudden cash in my hands to yours, feeling frustration over the time frame. Also, I remember at one point thinking, I hope these Zennish quotes don't really disappoint Greydon -- but my inner voice said to keep writing, so I did, overcoming fears (which had me taking out the quotes and my comments) that I might somehow be ineffective or end up falling short in your eyes -- not that I ever write for approval, but being still attached to ego I sometimes worry about how I "sound". [Who am i kidding? I have a long way to go from detachment to ego.] I had tried to bring all sentences in tune with that intention, not wanting to use any words that would bring or draw further anxiety, but which might make you depart from that instead. It was really quite a simple but sincere wish. I am not sure I have communicated all of this correctly, but it was sort of a surprise to me too, what I wrote in the 1st paragraph above. I never would have realized or recognized how intent the intent w as (!), except that when you wrote that you didn't know what had gotten into me, I wondered, "Hmmm, What did I do differently?" At first I thought, "I guess I write more clearly when I am not feeling well." Then I 'remembered' it was more than that and it came out in the 1st paragraph's explanation. I cannot believe Cliff thought I was in high school! That is SO FUNNY! I am trying to remember my voice right now, but since it is still basically absent I cannot speak and listen to myself to see if I sound highschooly. I will say that although I 'picture' my voice normal I am told sometimes that I don't speak loud enough, even though my laugh, and what I laugh at, can be terribly little- kiddish (like being in hysterics over not being able to catch all your emails at first last week, trying desperately to keep up and suddenly seeing the situation as 100% humorous) and probably at times too loud for "proper" social circles, like I care :). I prefer written communication so much better than spoken. You get to say all you want to say without the normal interruptions and back&forthness of normal conversations, which are just not conducive to spelling out things clearly, and often not conducive to reaching the depth one can express and experience in writing. Written communication seems more pure to me, somewhat less full of ego because the 'personality' that comes through voice does not get in the way. When I write I can only do it when it is quiet -- talking is often accompanied by so much other stimuli - personalities involved, surrounding noise, other voices, worry or irritation that the person is not listening to you, an incompetent listener, or anything that interrupts you in some way. How can communication be a pure stream in THAT kind of environment? Writing is more soul to soul. Back to age, I have not applied a number to myself since I don't know when, except to lie. I am not trying to be purposefully mysterious. I think your way of honesty is better, but the "telling my number" is just not in me. I even have this notion that if my brain 'hears' a younger number, it will believe it and my physical self will respond on a cellular level to always look younger no matter what my age. Even in high school I would lie, and I have a distinct memory of being 8 years old and melodramatically thinking something like, "OH MY GOD I CAN'T BELIEVE I AM 8 YEARS OLD. How can I be this old already?", even being embarrassed that I was 8. Figure that. You would think I would be ashamed of such thoughts, but they were entrenched into my being from birth and thus feel normal. (Although the kooky "change-your-body's-age-on-a-cellular-level-by-lying-about-your-age-in-years is my own invention.) On the good side, I never apply numbers to others or try to figure out age, and if I hear their chronological number, I usually don't remember, nor do I ever think of someone as "a 90-year old" or "a nine-year old", whatever the case. I have had to work at this because the world is so into "how old is s/he?" I think it puts someone in a "bracket", a word I dislike. Incidentally, my own mother has never said her age to me (as children my sister and I would guess. She would never confirm any guess), hence you can see that this age-fear thing is a deep-seated thing from baby-hood, one that would be difficult to overcome except by "constant ongoing daily hourly inductions and discharges". <--The words in quotes I just wrote are your exact words from a favorite email you sent on Jan. 11th at 12:40, subject: Re: **SPAM** Writing. I pinpointed it EXACTLY by heart center with my first try! I went through the list and opened the first email which 'felt' like it might contain the words I was looking for so I could quote them, and bingo, perfect match first time. This didn't happen when look ing for something of yours in my last email (suggestive of people co-creating the universe, which I still want to find), so I was happy to get it right this time. .... I don't mean to laugh at your pain, but your visual image of fingernails applied to "certain strategic areas" of your head and spikes springing out was so funny that I was afraid my laughing was going to go into a coughing fit, and I had to take a break for a minute. Plus the laughter brought ME reprieve from despairing feelings over the fact that all this t ime that I am spending recovering & trying to stand/sit upright for more than 5 minutes at a time would-should-could have been spent seeking employment. Even in the writing of this email I have intermittently lain down several times and even slept. I am sorry about the lost-then-not-lost emails. I sometimes see crazy stuff like you described when computer temporary memory is low. Then once I reboot or better yet, shut down completely for a few minutes, all is normal again. Could temp memory have been taxed due to a lot of windows being open or recent use of graphics? I know when type styles in message boxes change out of the blue and buttons start to sort of crash into each other or any kind of visual wierd thing like that, that it isn't real. I just need to shut down for a while. By the way, I am scared of Capricorn now. (- Word of advise no need to be scared of any sign, all have greater good, its the lesser good which has over the past caused pollutions in different signs which are scary but nowhere in reciprocal power to scary as is the greater power in the greater good of each of the 12 birth signs - GM). It's funny. Out of nowhere you mentioned two things I had thought about while writing the previous email: 1- Detroit (wondering why you placed me there, but I had decided to let go of the question) and 2- the blue feather (which I decided against mentioning because it seemed too simplistic to talk about in these times). I am glad you read it. I thought you would be a little more impressed of course, but only at the potential. I look at it as Step 1 or as a practice exercise. I mean, how can we ever hope to accomplish a multi-layered manifestation like your "induction super potent higher frequency form that could dissolve and end US desire to race missiles through Iraq and cause the US administration to cancel all war ideas at the same time leaders of other countries around the world all lay down their arms" unless we test and build our abilities on little things like a turquoise feather, dollar bills, $5 dollar bills, emeralds, or just ONE of those things mentioned in your manifestation? As far as I can see, that manifestation should work instantly if we are doing everything right. Such manifestations happen for both of us without even a focused attempt on our part (antibiotics for me, tires for you), so if we ARE doing them and they aren't working, perhaps it means we need to go back and learn something from an easier visualization, kind of like a refresher course. Perhaps in going back to the simple (maybe not quite as simple as a blue feather) you will learn more of (or even exactly) what is needed to determine "what kind of frequency to induct, and how to hold it in consciousness long enough to do any real good". What I really liked about the blue feather is that the first time the character Richard tried the exercise, he only drew to himself a picture of it on a milk carton or something. When he slightly changed his visualization to include HIMSELF, holding and examining the feather, he drew to himself the actual feather. I tried it and it worked for me -- and it was turquoise too, as I had pictured (not just any shade of blue). There is something about that difference in visualizing -- with and without the current physical self -- that I have not yet grasped, but hope to. Incidentally, since you and I are both sure of the idea of thought manifesting physically, I hardly wonder why we connected on this planet, and do wonder if it might not be for this specific thing -- Iraq. I also wonder what would happen if we tried something simple and constant, like a white or gold light permeating Iraq? Or Christ walking through Iraq, light radiating from Christ through country? Or something? (both those examples don't seem quite right, but they are the best I could think of right now). I'm not implying we are 2 'chosen' to do this, but that maybe the fact that 'visualizing a solution' is SO in our minds means we (along with hopefully quite a few others) just might be in tune to, in hearing range of some PEACE frequency that WANTS to manifest, but cannot do so without the help of some of us down here. What would happen if our focused visualizations had very specific intents and focused exclusively but softly on Irag? It would have to be a "seeing" that cleared away the present clutter, thereby bringing about so mething better. It would have to feel right and not forced or silly. It might mean taking meditation time to hook up to that peace frequency until the right visualization appeared. Of course with my -- okay I admit it -- limited geographical capabilities, we would have to make sure we were focusing our visualization beams on the same part of the world map so I wasn't off in Antarctica or something. (Actually I know where that country is). ~Starlight -- That is funny, about the bugle imagery being an expression that you use. I am not sure if I have ever used that expression before in my life, but it came to my mind when I pictured how the email would look upon first being opened. Greydon & Starlight March 30 - April 2/2003